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This list varies according to which part of Germany you live in so you can cross the street and your legal dog suddenly becomes a banned dangerous dog!

Cat.1)

American Staffordshire Terrier

Pitbull Terrier

Staffordshire Bull Terrier

Bull Terrier

Neopolitan Mastiff

Spanish Mastiff

Dogue de Bordeux

Dogo Argentino

Fila Brasileiro

Roman Fighting Dog

Chinese Fighting Dog

Bandog

Tosa Inu

Cat.2)

Akbash

Briard

Beauceron

Bullmastiff

Dobermann

Estrela Mountain Dog

Komondor

Kuvasz

Maremma

Mastiff

Pyrenean Mastiff

Pyrenean Mountain Dog

Rottweiler

Tibetan Mastiff

and 15 other European herding breeds

(Cat.3)

For _all_ dogs higher then 40cm and/or over 20Kg weight

DOG BREEDS potentially most at risk:(some new breeds added as they have just been press released please note)

Mastiff

Tibetan Mastiff

Shar Pei

Bull Terrier

Pyrenean Mountain Dog

Briard

Komondor

Dobermann

Staffordshire Bull Terrier

Bullmastiff

Golden Retriever

Japanese Akita

Rhodesian Ridgeback

Estrela Mountain Dog

Kovasc

Stop Press: Latest reports are that German Shepherd Dogs may be added to list.

* Press Release :Germany has begin euthanizing innocent pets by the hundreds.

In Germany we have “Nazi time” again. There are hot-lines were you can point out people who are owning a “fighting dog.” Dobermans, Rottweilers and a lot of other dogs have to carry bait bags all the time outside to bait these dogs in to the hands of the German police where they are captured and put down (since a few days)

The owners of these breeds that are on the list must register with the stadt, and obtain a dog handling licence. Permission to continue to own one of these dogs will be granted if the dog has shown no evidence of aggression towards people, game, livestock, cats and other dogs for more than 3 years. The dog can only be exercised by a person over 18 years, and must wear a leash and muzzle at all times.

Cat.1 dogs, and those who have shown aggression, cannot be bred from under any circumstances. My understanding of the regulations is that if you can show your dog is of no danger to the public, you may be exempted from the muzzle/leash requirement.

Cat.3) Any dog over 40cm/20kg.

Cat.3 dogs should be on a leash in built up areas, and will be moved up to Cat.2 if they show any aggression. We’re going to have to wait to see what the final regulations are. from Angela in germany additional information As of 8:00 this morning, the ruling has come down early, due to the attack and death of a six year old boy in Hamburg.

The entire country of Germany has officially banned the following breeds: Pitbull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Terrier. Those now in the country can be exported out. Any dogs that remain, must take a state run temperament test. If passed: spayed/neutered. If failed: euthanasia.

If you are caught breeding or buying one of these breeds, a $50,000 fine and six months jail term are imposed. The Bull Terrier is on this list in some parts of Germany as well, including the Miniature BT. In other parts, the BT must pass the temperament test (which is 3 hours long and videotaped, at a cost of $500.00 per dog) If the dog passes, the animal may be used in a breeding program, as long as the breeder is a member of the VDH. If failed: euthanasia.

The Minister of the Interior for our area is going to try and separate the VDH breeders from those who breed without papers, which will save our breed. The final decision on this will come middle September. There is no fighting this in the courts. Hopefully, all of the emails, letters and faxes from around the world will help to exclude the Bull Terrier from extinction in parts of Germany. But we were warned…if another serious dog attack occurs where the injuries are life threatening or death occurs, then all of these breeds are finished. This includes the other breeds I mentioned last month (Doberman, Rottweiler, Mastiff, etc.)

One region of Germany has 16 breeds on their ‘Forbidden List’. These laws are now before the politicians in Sweden, Italy and Spain. With the European Union in place, it is likely most of Europe will follow Germany’s decision. It is a sad day for the registered breeders of the VDH. We cannot breathe a sigh of relief yet, the BT’s fate is still hanging the air in some parts of the country. In other parts, it is over. There are a total of nearly 30 dog breeds on the A, B, C list. Some face extinction, others face severe limitations. It is a terrible day for dog owners and breeders nationwide.

We in Germany do as much as possible against this new crazy politics, but we need also help as much as possible. Today the county Hessen announced they will kill about 5000 “fighting dogs” soon… Of course there was no accident with one of these dogs in this county.

In my county the “fighting” dogs are: American Staffordshire Terrier, Pitbull Terrier, Staffordshire Bullterrier, Bullterrier, Mastino Napolitano, Mastino Espanol, Bordeaux Dogge, Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasileiro, Römischer Kampfhund, Chinesischer Kampfhund, Bandog, Tosa Inu, Berger de Brie (Briard), Berger de Beauce (Beauceron), Bullmastiff, Carpatin, Dobermann, Estrela-Berghund, Kangal, Kaukasischer Owtscharka, Mittelasiatischer, Owtscharka, Südrussischer Owtscharka, Karakatschan, Karshund, Komondor, Kraski Ovcar, Kuvasz, Liptak (Goralenhund), Maremmaner, Hirtenhund, Mastiff, Mastin de los Pirineos, Mioritic, Polski Owczarek, Podhalanski, Pyrenäenberghund, Raffeiro do Alentejo, Rottweiler, Slovensky Cuvac, Sarplaninac, Tibetanischer Mastiff, Tornjak. Soon we will find non of these dogs in Germany again. Please help us. Don’t make holidays in Germany, tell it to your friends, tell and or write it to organizations which may can help

Thanks.

Regards Michael from de.rec.tiere.hunde (german speeking newsgroup about dogs)

There is a State in Germany where the Hairless breeds are BANNED. PERIOD.

They refer to them as Frankenhunds (Frankenstein dogs)

Your MP – find the address at www.upmystreet.com

Your MEP – address under europarl.org.uk

Rt Hon Tony Blair, MP, 10 Downing Street, London SW1A 1AA

Home Secretary, 50 Queen Anne’s Gate, London SW1H 9AT

European Commission, 8 Storey’s Gate, London SW1P 3AT

H.E. The German Ambassador, Dr Hans-Friederich von Ploetz, German Embassy, 23 Belgrave Square, London SW1X 8PZ

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It’s a funny world we live in.

letha wrote:

There is a State in Germany where the Hairless breeds are BANNED. PERIOD.

They refer to them as Frankenhunds (Frankenstein dogs)

Sorry, but this made me laugh, seriously. Ban dogs because they are HAIRLESS? Should we also ban albino people too?

Heh, sorry, but I don’t really understand this world we’re living in.


What a bunch of feeble minded officials.

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Gene Hill


Although I do not agree with any attempt at breed bans I find the use of words to describe it such as we have “Nazi time” again unspeakable. I am german and what is unfortunatly being done in parts of Germany is no different than what many city and county politicians are doing here.

The thought of breed bans sickens me but I have noticed that the majority of information being posted on the internet isn’t totally true.

Dogs which are not classified as fighting dogs under the new decree may also be classified as dangerous. Dogs are considered dangerous if they are (a) vicious or (b) aggressively jump at human beings and animals in a dangerous way, or (c) show a tendency to chase or attack game or other animals. Such animals must be muzzled and walked on a leash.

The state of Hessen will also introduce new laws to protect citizens from dog attacks. As of July 15, there will be a general prohibition against breeding, trading and obtaining 16 canine breeds. Owners of the specified breeds have until August 15 to request an official license. The dogs must be registered, pass a “temperament test,” sterilized and always kept on a leash and muzzle. The law applies to the following breeds: American pit bull terrier or pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire bull terriers or American Stafford terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, American bulldog, bandog, bull mastiff, bull terrier, Bordeaux mastiff, Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasileiro, Kangal (Karabash), Caucasion Owtscharka, mastiff, Mastin Espanol, Mastino Napoletano, Tosa Inu. Animals classified as dangerous and not registered by August 15 will be confiscated and killed if they do not pass the temperament test.

In Rheinland-Pfalz, the Minister of the Interior has also drafted a tighter decree concerning dangerous dogs. The following measures would be added to the existing decree: there will be a general prohibition against breeding, trading and reproduction of all dangerous dogs. The following breeds are classified as dangerous dogs: Pitbull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers and Staffordshire Bullterriers. These breeds and crossbreeds must now be sterilized and castrated respectively. All these dogs are to be registered and marked. Persons who show weakness of character (e.g. felony conviction) will not be allowed to own or walk dangerous dogs. Individuals violating this decree can be fined up to DM 10,000.

The German state of Bavaria was the first state to tackle the fighting dog issue and issued an extremely tight “fighting dog decree” in 1992. With this decree, the state of Bavaria issued very rigid rules concerning dogs showing increased aggressiveness and dangerousness. The breeding or crossbreeding of fighting dogs is prohibited and violations will be fined up to DM 100,000. Local authorities must grant permission to own a fighting dog. This permission will only be granted under very strict prerequisites. Five breeds, e.g., Pit Bulls, are always classified as dogs with the characteristics of a fighting dog. Nine other breeds, e.g. Bullterriers, are suspected of showing the characteristics of a fighting dog unless proof is furnished that the dog does not show enhanced aggressive behavior and poses a hazard to the life and health of human beings and animals based on their behavior.

As I mentioned, I’m not a fan of any type of ban, I don’t agree with this at all but to say that anyone owning a breed on the list will have their dog confiscated and put down is not true. If the dog in question does not pass the “temperament test” it is required to be spayed or neutered and must be leashed and muzzled as well as registered and marked with identification such as tat or microchip. Only dogs that are found to be aggressive to the point of obvious danger to humans are required to be pts. No the government should NOT be allowed to tell someone what breed that may or may not have but, innocent dogs being put down by the thousands? No.

By the way, frankenstein dog in german would be frankenstein hund…a hairless dog would be unbehaart hund. Franken translates to Franconia.

Usage: geographical name

former duchy in Austrasia, now included chiefly in Baden-Wurtemburg, Bavaria, & Hesse states, Germany.

If anyone is interested the exact wording of the laws as they currently stand until Dec. 2004 in some areas of Germany has been listed below.

This is the new law in NRW (area Muenster, Koeln, Duesseldorf, Dortmund). If you look in §2a and §4 No.5, you can see, that all “Schutzhund”-trained dogs go to dangerous dogs. They need lead and muzzle and are forbidden to breed. Again, I DO NOT agree with this but this is how it is currently.

You can see that rottweiler and dobermann go to group 1+2. To own a dog higher as 40 cm or heavier as 20 Kg you need: A microchip for your dog, a report by the police an insurance for the dog a report, that you have knowledge about dogs and the dog is only allowed on lead.

Act on the owning, breed, education, and training of certain dogs (Act of Dogs of the Land Nordrhein-Westfalen) […]

§1 Area of application and compulsory registration

(1) This act is valid for the owning of dogs, that in fully-grown status, reach a withers height of 40 cm (15.7 inches) or alternatively, reach a weight of at least 20 kg (44 pounds). Furthermore, this act applies for the owning, breed, education and training of dogs fulfilling the criteria according to § 2, as well as to dog races of the attachments 1 and 2 or cross-breeds of the races named in there with dogs of other races or half-breeds, independently from their height or weight.

(2) The owning of any dog according to the spirit of paragraph 1 is to be noticed to the competent regulatory authority by the owner.

§2 Definition of terms

As dangerous according to the spirit of this act are regarded:

a) dogs, that are bred towards aggressiveness or readiness to combat or sharpness or other breeding characteristics equally in their effect or that have begun or completed a training disadvantageous for man, as a protection dog or a training for civil sharpness.

b) dogs, that have proven to bite according to the expert opinion of the veterinarian appointed by civil service.*

c) dogs, that have jumped on a person in a manner that is threatening danger

d) dogs, that have proven to uncontrollably hound or take game, cattle, cats or dogs.

§3 Requirements for the owning of dos according to §1, (1), sentence 1

(1) Dogs addressed by area of application of §1, (1), sentence 1, may only be owned by persons, that have the accordingly necessary knowledge and skills (knowledge of the subject), and that have the accordingly necessary reliability. The knowledge and skills are to be proven by a certificate of the Chamber of Veterinarians of the Land Nordrhein-Westfalen.

(2) As knowledged in the spirit of paragraph (1) are to be regarded:

a) Persons, owning a dog in the spirit of §1, (1), sentence 1 for more than 3 years, in cases where no events have been recorded in relation on the part of the authorities for the prevention of cruelty to animals or local authorities, and that have insured that in written to the competent authority,

b) Owner of a hunting license or persons, that have successfully passed the hunting examination,

c) Persons, having an allowance according to §11, (1), No. 3, Letter a of the Act for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals regarding breed or owning of dogs.

(3) As a proof of reliability a certificate by the police, stating that the holder has no criminal record has to be presented (excerpt from the Federal Central Register).

(4) Dogs in the spirit of § 1, (1), sentence 1 be taken leashed only in connection with built-up parts on public streets and places as well as in public means of traffic.

(5) For dogs in the spirit of this regulation the taking out of a liability insurance has to be proven. (6) Each dog in the spirit of this regulation has to be marked permanently with a microchip at the expenses of the owner. The identity of the dog (race, weight, height, age, colour of the fur, chip number) has to be notified to the competent authority.

§4 Requirements for the owning, breed, education and training of dogs of the attachments 1 and 2 as well as of dangerous dogs

(1) The owning, education and training of dogs of the attachments 1 and 2, of cross-breeds of these races named in there with dogs of other races or half-breeds as well as of dangerous dogs in the spirit of §2 require the allowance of the local regulation authority.

(2) The allowance will be given to the filing person, only when 1. s/he has attained the age of 18,

2. s/he has proven his/her knowledge to the subject to the regulatory authority competent for the enforcement of the Act for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals,

3. s/he has the necessary reliability

4. the premises, equipment, and outdoor enclosures serving the education, the breed, or the training is guaranteeing an accommodation behavourily applied and break-out safeness in order not to threaten the freedom from bodily harm of man or animal,

5. the requirements of § 3 (3), (5) and (6) are fulfilled.

(3) Furthermore, owners of dogs in the spirit of § 2 Letter a or attachment 1 allowance will only be given, if an overweighing special interest for the owning, education, or training is being proven. An overweighing special interest can be present, especially when it serves the survey of a threatened property.

(4) The allowance shall be given limited and with the reservation of withdrawal, and can be connected especially with provisions and conditions. Subject of a condition can also be the obligation of sterilization based on the expert opinion of the veterinarian appointed by civil service. Conditions can also be imposed, changed or added later. The allowance is to be withdrawn, if it becomes known later, that when allowance was given, one of the requirements of paragraph 2 was not present or a requirement has been cancelled after giving the allowance.

(5) The breeding with dangerous dogs in the spirit of § 2 and with dogs of the attachment 1 is prohibited.

§5 Reliability

(1) The necessary reliability (§ 3 (3) § 4 (2) Nr. 3) persons as a rule, do not have, especially when they are

a) or for wilful attack on life or health, rape, procuring, breach of the peace or trespass, obstruction of an officer in the performance of his duties, a criminal act constituting a public danger, or a criminal act against property or assets,

b) for a criminal act committed in a status of drunkenness or

c) for a criminal act against the Act of Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, the Act of Weapons, the Act of the Control of War Weapons, the Act of Explosives, or the Federal Act of Hunting been finally sentenced, if more than five years have not yet been passed since the moment of legal force of the latest verdict. Not calculated in that deadline is the period, in which the applicant has been taken into custody of an institution upon order of a regulatory authority.

(2) Furthermore, the necessary reliability, persons as a rule do not have, when they,

a) offended against the provision of the Act of Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, the Act of Weapons, the Act of the Control of War Weapons, the Act of Explosives, or the Federal Act of Hunting, or against § 4 (1) or § 6 (2) and (3) of this regulation,

b) is being supervised according to § 1696 of the Civil Law (“BGB”) on grounds of a psychic disease or a mental or psychic handicap,

c) is alocoholic or addicted to drugs, or

d) has given a false statement in the spirit of § 3 (2), letter a.

§6 Owning of dangerous dogs and of the dogs of the attachments 1 and 2

(1) Dangerous dogs and the dogs of the attachments 1 and 2, cross-breeds of the races named therein, cross-breeds of these races with dogs of other races or half-breeds are to be kept in a manner, that persons, animals or subjects are not being threatened.

(2) Within pacified properties dangerous dogs and dogs of the attachments 1 and 2, cross-breeds of the races named therein, cross-breeds of these races with dogs of other races or half-breeds are to be kept in a manner, that they can not leave it against the will of the owner.

(3) Outside of pacified properties, on access roads of houses for several families and in their stairwell, public streets and places, in public means of traffic an in public rooms, dangerous dogs and dogs of the attachments 1 and 2, cross-breads of these races with dogs of other races or half-breeds are to be kept leashed. Furthermore, they have to carry a device that prevents biting or another device equally in its effects. The owner or another supervisor has to be able by physical constitution to keep the dog safely leashed; the leash has to of such nature, that the dog can be kept safely. A supervisor other than the owner has to attained the age of 18.

(4) The competent regulatory authority can admit exceptions from paragraph (39, sentences 1 and 2 for dogs of the attachments 1 and 2, cross-breads of these races with dogs of other races or half-breeds, if these do not fulfil the criteria of § 2, if the owner proves, that danger for the public safety is not be feared. The admittance of the exception can be limited and be given with the reservation of withdrawal, and can as well be connected with provisions and conditions. Conditions can also be imposed, changed or added later.

§7 Prohitibition of the owning of dangerous dogs as well as of dogs of the Appendixs 1 and 2

(1) The competent authority has to prohibit the owning of a dangerous dogs as well as of dogs of the Appendixs 1 and 2, if facts justify the assumption, that the requirements for a permission of §4 (2) are not being fulfilled, or that by the owning a danger for life and health is given for man and animal.

(2) A prohibition according to (1) as well as other directions able to give protection against danger according to the acts of the local authority that are being ordered in individual cases, such as behavioural therapy, sterilisation, being looked after in a shelter, being taken in possession and euthanasia are permitted under compliance of the Law of prevention of cruelty to the animal, independently whether a permission has been applied for or been given according to §4.

(3) The owning of a dog in the spirit of §2 or the Appendixs 1 or 2 can also be prohibited, when a permission according to §4 has not been applied for within the time period stated by a competent authority, or has not been given thereafter.

§8 Competances Competent authority in the spirit of this act is the local town’s clerk office.

§9 Exception of the area of application This act is not valid for dogs on duty employed by Federal Authorities or Authorities of the Land as well as for dogs on duty of the communities and connected communities.

§10 Infringements

(1) Going against regulations is, who willfully or negligantly

1. does not give notice of the owning of a dog against §1 (1), 2. does own a dog, without having proven the nessary knowledge of the subject against §3 (1),

3. does give a false statement against §3 (2) letter a),

4. does not take dogs in the spirit of §1 (1) sentence 1 leashed in connection with built-up parts on public streets and places as well as in public means of traffic against §3 (4),

5. does not prove the taking out of a liability insurance against §3 (5),

6. does not permanently mark a dog with a microchip against §3 (6),

7. is breeding with dangerous dogs in the spirit of §2 or with dogs of the Appendix 1,

8. does within pacified property not keep dangerous dogs and dogs of the Appendixs 1 and 2, cross-breeds of the breeds identified in there, cross-breeds of these dogs with dogs of other breeds or half-breeds, in a manner that they cannot leave the property against the will of the owner.

9. does not take dangerous dogs and dogs of the Appendixs 1 and 2, cross-breeds of the breeds identified in there, cross-breeds of these dogs with dogs of other breeds or half-breeds, leashed against §6 (3) sentence 1, or does not provide dangerous dogs and dogs of the Appendixs 1 and 2, cross-breeds of the breeds identified in there, cross-breeds of these dogs with dogs of other breeds or half-breeds or their descendants with a muzzle basket or a device equally in its effect.

(2) The infringement can be punished with a fine of up to two thousand Deutsche Mark (1.022 EURO).

(3) […]

§12 Legal force, repeal, interim regulations

(1) […]

(2) […]

(3) The provisions of §3 (2), letter a) are valid for persons that have owned dogs in the spirit of §1 (1), sentence 1 for more than three years

(4) §4 (3) is not valid in regard to dogs according to §2, letter a) or Appendix 1, that have been owned by a certain person at the time when this act went into force.

Appendix 1

American Staffordshire Terrier Pitbull Terrier

Staffordshire Bullterrier

Bullterrier

Mastino Napolitano

Mastino Espanol

Bordeaux Dogge

Dogo Argentino

Fila Brasileiro

Roman Combat Dog

Chinese Combat Dog

Bandog

Tosa Inu

Appendix 2

Akbas

Berger de Brie (Briard)

Berger de Beauce (Beauceron)

Bullmastiff

Carpatin

Dobermann

Estrela Mountain Dog

Kangal

Caucasian Ovtcharka

Middle Asian Ovtcharka

South-Russian Ovtscharka

Karakatschan

Karshound

Komondor

Kraski Ovcar

Kuvasz

Liptak (The Goral’s Dog)

Maremmo

Mastiff

Mastin de los Pirineos

Mioritic

Polski Owczarek Podhalanski

Pyrenees Mountain Dog

Raffeiro do Alentejo

Rottweiler

Slovensky Cuvac

Sarplaninac

Tibetan Mastiff

Tornjak

§ 1 Dogs with increased aggressiveness and dangerous potential

Dogs with increased aggresiveness and dangerous potential (fighting dogs) within the meaning of this decree are the following breeds and groups of dogs as well as crossbreeds amongst or with other dogs:

American Pitbull Terrier or Pitbull Terrier

American Stafford Terrier or American Staffordshire Terrier

Staffordshire Bullterrier

American Bulldog

Bandog

Bullmastiff

Bullterrier

Dogue de Bordeaux

Dogo Argentino

Fila Brasileiro

Kangal (Karabash)

Caucasian Owtscharka

Mastiff

Mastin Espanol

Mastino Napoletano

Tosa Inu

§ 2 Prohibition of possession

Possession of a fighting dog requires permission. It will only be granted, if a just interest for the possession can be proven, and if a petition for achieving the permission is filed in writing by Aug 15, 2000 with the authorized authorities.

§ 3 Leading and confining of a fighting dog

(1) walking a fighting dog outside its confinement area must be done with leash and muzzle. The person walking the dog must be 18 years of age as well as mentally and physically able to do so.

(2) Properties and kennels where a fighting dog is held, must be fenced in and secured so that people outside the property and kennel are not in danger. Escaping from the kennel or property must be made impossible. Every door or gate to the property or apartment of the owner must bear a bright red sign at least 15 by 21cm with the clear writing “Warning, dangerous dog”.

(3) Fighting dogs must be castrated or sterilized.

§ 4 Prohibition to breeding, trading and acquisition

Breeding, mixing, trading, acquisition and discharge of fighting dogs is prohibited. It is allowed to discard to and accept by animal shelters as well as people having obtained permission according to § 2.

§ 5 Responsibilities

Responsible for enforcing this decree are the local authorities.

§ 6 Failure to obey

(1) It is illegal within the meaning of § 77 subparagraph 1 of the Hessian Law for Public Safety and Regulation to intentionally, deliberately or carelessly

own a fighting dog (§ 2, sentence 1) without permission after Oct 16, 2000

walk a fighting dog without leash or muzzle

holds a fighting dog contrary to § 3, subparagraph 1, sentence 2

contrary to § 3, subparagraph 2, sentence 1 not sufficiently secures property and kennel

contrary to § 3, subparagraph 2, sentence 2 not puts up a warning sign

contrary to § 3 subparagraph 3 not has his fighting dog castrated or sterilized

violates a prohibition according to § 4 sentence 1.

(2) Failure to obey according to § 77 subparagraph 1 of the Hessian Law for Public Safety and regulation can be punished with a fine up to 10,000 German Marks.

§ 7 This decree is into effect as of Jul 6, 2000 and out of effect Dec 31,2004.

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Sonja & the Ti-Son Bully Crew

“Life is 10% of what happens to you, and 90% of how you

respond to it.”


Sonja, I was not referring to it as Nazi times.. This was a post that I was asked to forward. The guy who wrote it refered to it as that.

His name is on there. Sorry if you thought I did but I did not. I was also told that about the hairless.

Like I said the names of the people are on there.

Sorry again.

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Hi Letha,

Although we already spoke about this in PM I wanted to reply to the post here as well, I’m not angry with you at all and knew that it was not your comment but that of the person who wrote the information. I apologize if it sounded like I was commenting to you directly rather than the information posted.

This is a great topic for the boards for people to learn from as well as voice their opinions and concerns on breed bans and I’m glad you brought it up. There is a lot of information both factual as well as only half truths written on the subject on the internet but either way, the one thing it does do is bring to light a serious situation that could very well get out of hand in Germany and other countries as well.

I’m very much opposed to any sort of breed ban wether it be in the form of a shelter putting down every Pit that isn’t claimed within three days just because of their breed ( my local shelter does this ) regardless of temperament up to any government being able to tell people that they no longer have a choice in which breed they choose to own.

I’d like to hear more from others on the topic as well, how does everyone feel about not only Germany and what their doing currently but any local, county or state statutes in their own countries currently in place or in the process of being pushed through to become law.

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Sonja & the Ti-Son Bully Crew

“Life is 10% of what happens to you, and 90% of how you

respond to it.”


Washington state has had some sucess in removing pit bull legislation from the books:

http://www.homeagainid.com/news/article.cfm?storyid=12719

I’ve seen many AmStaffs at our local county shelter (and lots on petfinder.com). They look just as eager to find a new home as the other dogs there. But, with all the stigma, they have a harder time finding homes.

Amazing what laws people can push through in a “free country”! We have to let our representatives know how we feel. Many of them have e-mail accounts and web pages for posting opinions, I’ve had good luck with our Senators here in WA. They appear to listen…and I watch for which way they vote in the paper.


Oh boy! Don’t get me started on this topic It gets me so mad how politics think that they can solve all of the worlds problems by banning certain breeds I don’t know why they can’t fathom the fact that an improperly trained and socialized “family dog” such as a Labrador Retriever can actually pose more of a threat to society than a properly trained and socialized, so called “fighting breed” like the Rottweiler. Also it’s not our fault that there are (place preferred word(s) here) out there who do wretched things to innocent dogs to make them more agressive then when those dogs attack, it gets publicised so that your average person connects that dog’s breed to every single other dog of that same breed, or others that look similar. I get worried mothers trying to protect their children when I merely walk down the street with my so called “wolf-hybrid” who in reality is merely an everybody-loving Siberian Husky.

And how are breed bans going to work? Once those breeds are gone it’s very easy to manipulate another breed! So then what? That breeds gets banned too? Then the next, and next and then suddenly all dog breeds are banned! Now what? Are they to remain a dogless nation? How much fun is that? Just because a few corrupted dogs and “owners” had to ruin it for the rest of us…

Even real dog-fighting dogs can become wonderful house pets if time is taken to nurture and care for both their physical and mental scars. I meself know of someone who conphiscated a fighting-dog who was left on a 4ft chain with a huge infected gash on his stomach. Today all that is left of the gash is a scar and the dog LOVES EVERYBODY he meets!!! Especialy children! Just don’t try and harm either of HIS kids. Thanks to this dog though, the owner feels confident allowing his kids to play in the front yard unsupervised…well unhuman supervised, the dog is always there keeping an eye on them. He may be snoozing in the sun but don’t be fooled! He always has one eye or ear on you! Now if this dog would be somewhere else, what would his fate be? Most likely death. Not because he deserved it but because the politics condemn him to such. He has a brown body, squished in muzzle, and sharp teeth – DEATH BE TO YOU!!! And then they say the government isn’t racist! Who says racsim is for humans only? Alright enough of my ranting…

Cheers!

Renata and Oceano